Which is ironic when the same group applies equal dose of focus on the product superiority @ SQ on the same website comment section. I sleep better in economy with no leg rest. Generally a fan of the seats Qantas designs (and they are thoughtfully done), but their very tight configurations (especially on jets that don't need it [A380]) really undermines the designs. 1. "If you make PE too good your not going to pay for business.". I am a big fan of Qantas and was very much looking forward to the new PE. I was prepared to change my stripes for my quarterly trips to NYC based on this product but I'll stay with VA/DL thanks. The seat. You can recline eight inches in your 38" seat pitch seat, 19.5" across. Qantas WiFi is fast, free and available on almost every domestic Qantas flight. I agree, I like more of the recline than fully flat in Business. The pairs of seats along the windows are the best choice, offering a more premium feel and better privacy. Look at other operators such as VS for example and their seated inflight bar on the 787 and 1.1.1 business config. Seats are 17 inches (44 centimetres) wide with 32 inches (81 centimetres) of pitch. Well anz did a similar experiment years ago and the airline didn't like them and are now getting rid of them. Other perks include dedicated check-in, priority boarding, an amenity kit and upgraded dining. QF bashing again. What I tend to do is when available, I assess by seat product specs and hopefully, some clear photos/diagrams revealing the product fm all angles and all available adjustment config/setting. What a shame Hi David, Great article, just one quick question.. does the legroom stay as tight if you are reclined as well as the pax in front? ), but I'd have been happy for a more conventional legrest-and-footrest combo. Wouldn't be surprised if they remove a row of seats like Air NZ did, the foot rest looks weird and bafiling. "..there really is no excuse for Qantas". Distribute 7seats +2aisles across a cabin diameter of 216inches. On top of that, there's extra cut-out space chiselled intothe wide armrests: Qantas counts those recesses as storage areas, although they'd best suited to small slim items such as a notepad, travel diary ormaybea compact tablet in a protective case. Seats. Obviously not up to business, but enough Absolutely best in class at the time. Penny pinching to say the least. third Thanks . Capital One Venture X . On bigger aircraft, there can be even more . Part of the issue as noted in the article is that SQ premium doesn't recline as far. Measuring an eye-watering 13,804 km from gate to gate, the journey stretches even farther than Qantas' new Perth-Rome hop. Its The legroom and width measurements of Qantas' premium economy seats are really good. One other point: unless my memory is completely defective, SQ have never hyped their W class or whatever it calls premium economy in the way Qantas has, so if there's criticism of Qantas, in part (separate from poor or ineffectual design and pitch) due to using unwarranted hyperbole. This is the cabin that won the 2019 TPG Award for best premium economy. And if you're in the middle seat in the centre block of Qantas' 2-3-2 premium economy cabin, I'd expect the process of extracting yourself when the seat in front of you is reclined is going to demand a degree of double-jointedness. Singapore Airlines. But I have yet to see a PE seat that retains the sense of space and comfort. Cabin manager said QF are giving premium customers a a chance to "check out the PE seats" whilst the 787 is doing the the PER-MEL-PER runs. Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/09/10 for Seat 9A. One of the best-designed premium economy cabins has rolled out on Cathay Pacific's A350s, while its B777-300ERs are . Of course, consumers and their feedbacks don't care about design specs of PY being too close to J and the Rev$ consequences. And people wonder why we bag Qantas as being a crap airline! Question.can I book two economy seats for myself!?? Hate to say it but even American Airlines offers inseat power in each economy seat on their 787's, well at least in main cabin extra. Find out what makes the Qantas Dreamliner 787-9 the most advanced long-haul aircraft of its type anywhere . There's much to like about Qantas' new premium economy seat, which sits in its own cabin of four rows with a 2-3-2 seating layout. Usually, these seats immediately face a fixed wall, dividing the seats from something else in the cabin. Air France. A hint of this is already evident in this glossy PR photo (eyeball the proximity of the model's knees against the seatback) and that's the recline of your own seat. I'm about 180cm and had plenty of legroom. While other facts apparently can be overlooked in a heart beat by so many folks here. The ergonomically designed headrest can be fitted with a specially . I'd suggest the reason that satellite tech isn't factory-fitted is that with the rollout of international inflight Internet still a few years away, the tech itself can and will change. Also read: AusBT reviews the Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner business class seat. Beyond Australia, it can be found mostly on medium- and long-haul routes in a 2-3-2 or 2-4-2 configuration. The A380 can carry up to 853 . Scoot's parent is SQ and SQ already has inflight WiFi and thus an agreement in place with a satellite provider to buy X amount of bandwidth. David also looks extremely well dressed, with a tie, as male business travellers ought have except in tropical climates. Qantas WiFi offers a very fast and pleasingly free way to stay connected above the clouds on its domestic Boeing 737 and Airbus A330 flights. Find the best seat wiht our Qantas Boeing 787-9 (789) seating chart. but a much nicer seat to sleep in than economy. See: Airline review: Qantas, Airbus A380, premium economy. A bulkhead seat can be located in several areas of an aircraft. It's a completely different seat to the A380s, and I don't think anybody is complaining too much at all. An excellent review from Mr Flynn, and nice to see an independent evaluation rather than a reproduction Qantas propaganda as per their earlier PR releases.Imagine being on the window seat or middle of the middle seats . I'd be inclined to agree. Without a seat in front with footrest, do ones legs just dangle off the tilted seat if they dont reach the bulkhead? Funny you say that, I've flown PE on Qantas and Cathay and found I couldn't get my legs in a comfortable position which hindered sleep. The lack of any toilets in the PE cabin was also a tad inconvenient. This won't make for a comfortable flight, especially not on the Dreamliner's 17+ hour non-stop trek between Perth and London. Great seats, wide spacious cabin in 2 3 2 config. Otherwise how would you know! 75,000 bonus miles. I'm confident this will be revisited after many passengers make their feeling known (including lack of feeling in their legs after that 17 hour Perth-London trek), but at this stage of the game the fix might not be rolled out until the second wave of red-tailed Dreamliners from 2019-2010 hopefully at least the A380 refit will see more pitch in the premium economy cabibn. Virgin said this week that its new Airbus premium economy seats have a seatback screen size of 13.3 inches compared to 11.6 inches in economy, but not a patch on the 18.5 inches in business . Booked economy Per Mel on 787-9 and was able to book row 20, first row in economy but in fact its premium economy seating. David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis. Not for me. Why the same complaints not extended here on this forum.". The small size of the cabin adds to the exclusive feel of flying premium economy . This all comes back to pitch, to the distance between the seats. 5. The A350 seat is narrower than the A380 seat though. David, what would your prefer, A380 PE or 787? Wow. Dont forget aircraft fly with a nose-up attitude so a fully flat J bed puts your head lower than your legs. Hmm. neighbours to get to the isle to queue for the loo - and paying a Photo: Courtesy of Emirates. Well send you an email containing the activation link. Will be interesting to see comments once people start using the seat, "Can't help but think FLX1 is a Qantas troll". For instance FLX1 seems to have made further comments - I can read them on my email - but they don't yet seem to be in the thread here. 20. Scoot with SQ) could factory fit an AVOD system screen to EVERY el cheapo Y seat on their also budget 787, there really is no excuse for Scoot not to hv the same even just for the pricey ScootBiz seat. Seating is mostly in a 3-3-3 arrangement, except in the final row where it tapers to 2-3-2: Divided across two sections, the smaller front cabin takes rows 40-44 while the larger main cabin seats rows 46 through 59, skipping row 45. Apparently, the concept of design trade-offs is unknown for many here. "this is an Australian traveller website, where we focus on our Airlines". Yet at odds with the double-dollop of USB ports is the single AC socket shared between each pair of seats or two sockets for the middle set of three seats. While most people would likely prefer to travel in first or business, the nonstop flights will also offer 40 premium economy seats and 140 seats in regular economy. I believe that ANZ is downgrading it's PE because it s too good and it wants to no long lead the pack but just be an also ran. Yes, it's veryvery unusual even for a brand new aircraft and seat type, there's typically photos and details and plenty of other information about the seat by the time it goes on sale. Find out all about the Qantas Premium Economy experience. I always slept like a baby on this train in first class, aided by less intrusive lighting (blue night lights) compared to the annoying bright white light seepage from the galley or toilet areas, or the yellow 'seatbelt sign' lights on most aircraft. And while most travellers will be sufficiently familiar with a seatback footrest to try and swing the calf-rest down with their feet, that struggle will get you nowhere you need to start by pulling out and holding the 'Footrest' lever under the video screen. Boeing 747-400 (744) Seats: 58 Business 270 Economy 36 Premium Economy. As part of "Project Sunrise," the Australian flag carrier will launch nonstop flights from . If youve forgotten your password, simply enter your email address Any indication that QF are aware of the situation? Premium Economy: AU$3,056. Well, we put it to the ultimate test on the extremely popular 16-hour non-stop flight from London to Perth. 19. When we published yesterday it hadn't been uploaded yet. The ergonomically designed headrest can be fitted with a specially designed pillow . David Slotnick/Business Insider. "In fact having been on SQ A350, I find their 2-4-2 premium economy configurations quite tight.". Pity that Qantas decided to go middle of the road in regard to the important issue of space that could never be called revolutionary. EVA Air. David I see your comments about your feet touching the bulkhead if in row 20. We're not fools. "look at the pics and review above, its clear cut.". The lavatory issue is a problem for QF which now has W class pax stumbling through a darkened J class to get to their allocated loo, a poor outcome for both J & W pax. Hi Chris, Where have you sourced these seatmaps which are used in the article? Nov 10, 2019, 6:03 AM. Is that storage area below the screen metal? Masochists can sit in a W or Y seat on QF9 or QF10 but I won't be joining them. Seat 52 C. Duration: 16 1/2 hours from London . For all that, I didn't find this to be miraculously comfortable during my kip in premium economy. The modern Business suites on Qantas' Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners are similar to the seats found on the A380. The design is wonderful, but at 65 tall, I think I will have to give it a miss. First of all, the 'hammock' can be deployed only when your seat is upright not reclined. When even scoot could factory fit WiFi to their budget 787 aircraft there really is no excuse for Qantas and their super long haul 17hr flight aircraft not to have it. Air New Zealand on the new 787's has done the same thing (not factory fitting aircraft with WiFi) which is also surprising when they claim that they'll have WiFi fleetwide in the next couple of years. To quote Shakespeare me thinketh thou complain too much. interact with our community. Capital One Venture X Rewards Credit Card. Not sure any airline, QF included are too keen to resolve the issue. Successful for EK on their long haul model (no 787s for comparison though) also successful on the VA 777 business class @ 14hr flights. below, then click 'Submit'. Hi Guest, join in the discussion on Review: Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner premium economy seat, Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). Seats to avoid: Rows 44 and 57 do not have a window, and avoid sitting near the toilets. It's a complete construct combining a supportive calf-rest and a cradle into which you can tuck your feet. But that's the point David and I were making, rather than setting the seat to flat we prefer setting it to a recliner position for sleep. 8. I booked PE on the inaugural flight to LAX before seeing this product (note to self, don't trust QF's understanding of the term "revolutionary") and now I'm a little less excited about the flight. 4. These are necessary as they fly some of the longest routes in the world. Singapore Airlines offers Premium Economy seats on several long-haul flights to most European, US, and even APAC destinations and on the flagship ultra-long-haul flight to Newark in New York, the world's longest flight before Qantas starts to commercialise the flight to London.. Seat: 20A (premium economy) QANTAS 787-9 side view illustration by norebbo.com. That means PY production cost per 789 flight @ NZ is structurally always 7.7% higher than QF. PatrickK: Bon is correct, this is a different seat. All Economy seats on this aircraft have a foot rest net under seat ahead and winged headrests. The luxury continues with Singapore Airlines . Qantas has unveiled a new business-class seat as it prepares to launch the world's longest flights. Talking point: have you given up on airport WiFi? Aircraft: Qantas is using a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner jet, which is comfortably large given the long journey we are about to undertake. Well send you an email containing the activation link. Sadly, a few issues not all of them related to the seat itself keep it from reaching its full crowd-pleasing potential. QF31 - Sydney to London via Singapore (SYD-SIN-LHR) 9 June 2009. I've personally found PE not comfortable, once again that's just me, hence saying ironic that I'd prefer economy. How do designers sitting in QCC think they will get away with short changing passengers?? Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/11/16 for Seat 21J. Solo travellers will also prefer the window seats here to avoid being awoken during the flight when their seatmate needs to hop up. Any ideas? Business class takes pride of place at the front of Qantas' Boeing 787s with 42 seats spread across two distinct zones, offering every traveller a fully-flat bed and direct access to the aisle. The joy of the . Each seat has a 13.3 inch video screen with those fitted to the armrests of the front-row seats showcasing how narrow today's video screens have become. Singapore Airlines. Review: Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner premium economy seat. Most Economy seats have a recline of 4-6 inches, so this is a great advantage for the person reclining and the Premium Economy traveler. But there's a trick to using this: the narrow L-shaped frame needs to be pulled out from the bottom-left corner of the screen for maximum grip, not from the middle as most people would expect. Use this seat map to get the most comfortable seats, legroom and recline before booking. Indeed, if you leave your tablet sitting in the middle of the frame again, a natural assumption the small grip area is insufficient to hold the tablet, which then does an Olympic-grade tumble dive into your hands. Caon cannily built a convenient tablet-holder in front of the seatback screens, for passengers who prefer to BYO inflight video and movies, with sufficient size to hold even a 13-inch iPad Pro. Excellent article: very considered, and terrific photos. The newest product is on the Airbus A350. Ok, apart from the hammock thing it's no advance over something like the prev gen PE seating on EVA - Which at it's height had 40" pitch (reduced to 38 when they reconfigured the J cabin), same pivot-cradle style seat but executed better - with leg-rest, and seat dropped into it's own space when reclined, minimising the space encroachment on the passenger behind. Would this still be the preferable row in your opinion over the other 3 rows behind and no one reclining into you? These seats can only be selected by Gold and above FF's. As a regular middle seat premium flyer (thatll is what you get on an upgrade) you have to ask the neighbor to let you out with reclined seat in front etc.So what is new. Selecting the best seats in Premium Economy on the Qantas B787 9 Dreamliner, with Tom Otley, Editor of Business Traveller . Im flying that on the inaugural QF9 mar24 and certainly confirms my initial thoughts of the publicity shots that it is tighter for legroom than I would expect. I'd also love to know where you heard about Scoot and Singapore Airlines sharing bandwidth from cause I've never heard of such thing before. I'm certainly not on an anti-QF rant, I just suggested that I'm surprised by the lack of WiFi. The Air NZ space seats replacement are great for sleeping, and at 41'' they still have good personal space. Best card for premium perks while traveling. VA 777 for example PE is set at 41, booking wise more bang for buck there. Login now. 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Duration: 14 hours 42 minutes. Hmm perhaps Qantas might revert back to 31" in Economy to make room for 40" in Premium Economy??? the best seats and in-flight amenities. Why the same complaints not extended here on this forum. The business revolution on the 787 seams lacking. Your all-inclusive guide to Qantas providing the most comprehensive resource on current aircraft, . Awards Hi RealKid,Our diagrams are taken from the official Qantas Boeing 787 LOPA (Layout of Passenger Accommodations) - an internal Qantas document which was shared with us exclusively. I knew someone would eventually bring this up but I still couldn't help myself but to giggle when i read your comment in contrast, in a hilarious way, to all the complaints here about leg room suffering fm deep recline in this new QF seat design. It's completely free and we'll never pass your information on to Resend one to yourself here. Oooo that seat pitch looks like economy of a few decades ago. Qantas Boeing 787 Dreamliner business class seat map. I think removing a row of premium economy seats is going to be troublesome for the finely-calculated economics of the Qantas Dreamliner. 1) Because many commentators here relentlessly regard SQ or 350 as an angel while QF or 787 as an evil. Having sat in the seat today at the open day in Melbourne and playing around with the recline (with both seat in infront and my seat reclined, I can honestly say I find it very comfortable and didn't have any issues with legroom at all. 4. Seat pitch: 32 inches. Qantas can't even "afford" to do that for their Premium Economy product? the 787 seatmap isalso onQantas.com in the seatmaps section :), Groovy! Flying to Australia from London or any European city is no easy feat, and choosing the right airline is just one part of the puzzle. First up is the legroom: or to be more precise, the lack of legroom when the seat in front of you is reclined. If not, it'll be a poor signal as to how QF view their W class customers and what could've been a class-leading seat will remain just average. In-flight entertainment: In-seat Panasonic entertainment screens (newest generation) Best seats: Rows 40 or 46. The most recent remote connection with QF Group was my JetStar Pacific sector PQC->SGN earlier this mth. ANA All Nippon Airways. Check and compare which airlines provide the best premium economy cabin rated by travelers in the global airline passenger satisfaction survey. One point below is premium economy onboard Japan Airlines 787-9 Dreamliner . Width 17.2". Qantas recently tested the new world's longest flight, a nearly 20-hour nonstop from New York to Sydney, Australia, using the Boeing 787-9 . I think its time for a new CEO and direction. The Royal Jordanian 787 Dreamliner This is so much more than a plane; it is Royal Jordanian's Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Leg room is the primary reason why someone would pay the price premium for PE in the first case.". Non-bulkhead rows (row 21-23) measured 38 inches of pitch, while the bulkhead row 20 has significantly more knee room, but less room to stretch out your legs due to the bulkhead. Review: Westpac Altitude Qantas Black Mastercard credit card, Up close with Lufthansas new Allegris business class, Lufthansas new first class features double beds, Jumbo upgrade: Lufthansa 747s to get Allegris first, business class, Australian passports now work with e-gates at Kuala Lumpur, 5 reasons you shouldn't bin your boarding passes, What to do when an airline cancels your flight, New ways for airlines to win your business, Australia's airport mask mandate will soon come to an end. Could not agree more! Unlike the premium economy seat of theQantas A380, and most other airlines, theres no legrest built into the front of the Dreamliner's seat Caon says this is because it has a limited range of motion and in the end it doesn't fully support your feet.". Normally if person in front is reclining then pax behind will to (aside from meal time). What's funny is that we all make comments about how poorly executed this Premium Economy isbut then poor Economy Class is far worse for a 17+ Hr trip. Qantas 787-9 Economy. Premium economy cabin. Seems like a big design flaw but the footrest looks nice and the overall product seems quite good. That will probably need a rethink. A flat wall replaces a window without the space of even a window surround or sill. The Premium Economy seating on the Qantas 787 is a huge step down from their retiring 747 fleet. As with everything Singapore Airlines does, their premium economy service is top tier, and certainly enough to make them worth bookmarking when you use our search filters. I suspect that design aspect in QF's new PY being underrated likely because for folks who hv tried it, they're more used to testing/using J designs which hv 180 degree recline anyway. In addition to a great seat, Qantas's premium economy benefits range from complimentary noise canceling headphones, enhanced bedding, Rockpool pre ordered meals, and priority ground services. 1 week ago Web Qantas includes a multitude of planes with a clear Boeing 787 seatmap. I I think you're over thinking this, In business class I sleep better setting the seat to a recline position instead of fully flat, that's just me. The shroud of each seat contains a soft personal LED light. Find cheap flights with Qantas. Looks uncomfortable alright, that legroom is inadequate I struggle to think how they can call this premium economy, more like modified economy. There's nothing to communicate either of these points to passengers. Cathay Pacific. Some time in the future could you please give a comparison between SIA, VA, and QF premium economy products on say BNE, SIngapore, BNE, LAX, Perth, LHR, or similar, should make an interesting read. Key facts: Qantas 787 Economy seats. Didnt receive an activation email? 30" pitch is horrific. Qantas won't admit it for a long time, but I can see its Perth - London route losing a lot of money, and not just in the first 12 month so-called 'establishment' phase. interact with our community. Typical, qantas always behind the eight ball. Which really doesn't matter because folks here attack this QF PY seat design purely on the basis of knee room and totally forgot that seat pitch contains a space for both recline AND knee room. Resend one to yourself here. Further . The Premium Economy seating on the Qantas 787 is a huge step down from their retiring 747 fleet. a shame about this product. . Not only AF and NZ hv the same seat design issue when they try to protect leg room/personal space thru a fixed seat back design, CX had a huge pax backlash when they tried similar design fleetwide 4~5yrs ago for the same goal and then had to abandon it quickly for longhaul(U can still see it in CX regional). AUSTRIAN AIRLINES. Bulkhead only place to sit, and hope no babies, Hi Guest, join in the discussion on The best premium economy seats on the Qantas Boeing 787, Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). To push the point further if your flying an extra (3-4hrs) for a 17hr leg wouldnt that flying demand a bar type area to stretch out, and take a break from the seat. If you have not received the activation email, simply enter your email address below, then click 'Submit'. I find there are two big variables in sleeping on aircraft in premium cabins one is, as you've noted, legrest or not; the other in business class is lie-flat or recline, sometimes I much prefer a deep recline with the legrest up to make the seat like a comfy lounge chair, rather than a fully-flat bed. Yes, happily this is not a bottomless pit. The over-sized winged headrest has plenty of vertical adjustment to suit passengers of almost any height, and a thick custom pillow more like a bolster in some ways slides over the headrest for added comfort (especially when it's nap-time), an arrangement which also prevents the pillow from sliding around and slipping down behind your back. This goes beyond a small section of netting at the bottom of the seat. 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